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Crossfire's Tucker Carlson Lies About Cheney-Edwards Debate

Don't Trust CNN, Crossfire, and Tucker Carlson

Stop Political Lying

MozillaQuest Magazine OpEd

11 October 2004 (C)

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Note: prior to publication of this editorial, an e-mail was sent to CNN's Crossfire show in order to provide CNN, Crossfire, and Tucker Carlson an opportunity to respond to the matters raised and discussed in this editorial. There was no reply to that e-mail. Thus, we consider that to be an admission by CNN, Crossfire, and Tucker Carlson that the facts set forth in this editorial are true and correct.
An essential ingredient of a well-oiled democracy and election process is that the voters be well-informed -- so that they can make informed choices on Election Day. That is one reason for the First Amendment protections of Freedom of the Press and Freedom of Speech. But those freedoms bring with them important responsibilities -- one such responsibility is truth!

On 7 October 2004 CNN, its Crossfire show, and a Crossfire anchor, Tucker Carlson seriously breached their general responsibility to tell the truth -- and the specific responsibility to truthfully inform their viewers about matters pertaining to the 2004 Vice-Presidential candidates.

This is not the first time that we have observed CNN misinforming its viewers or lying about the 2004 Presidential and Vide-Presidential candidates and their positions on issues.

The 2 November 2004, United States of America, Presidential election might well be the most important election of our times. That underscores the seriousness of CNN, its Crossfire show, and Crossfire anchor Tucker Carlson's breach of its general responsibility to tell the truth -- and breach of its specific responsibility to truthfully inform their viewers about matters pertaining to the 2004 Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates.

Here's what happened:

On the 7 October 2004 CNN Crossfire show Tucker Carlson stated:

". . . the debate the other night, the V.P. debate, what did you think when John Edwards turned to Dick Cheney and said, hey, how is your gay daughter?"

However, we do not find any such statement "how is your gay daughter?" in the transcript of the Cheney-Edwards debate. Moreover, it was the moderator, Gwen Ifill who raised the gay marriage and gay daughter issue in two questions, one to each candidate.

First Gwen Ifill asked Vice-President Dick Cheney:

"I want to read something you said four years ago at this very setting: 'Freedom means freedom for everybody.' You said it again recently when you were asked about legalizing same-sex unions. And you used your family's experience as a context for your remarks. Can you describe then your administration's support for a constitutional ban on same-sex unions?" [Emphasis added.]

And then Gwen Ifill asked Senator John Edwards:

"As the vice president mentioned, John Kerry comes from the state of Massachusetts, which has taken as big a step as any state in the union to legalize gay marriage. Yet both you and Senator Kerry say you oppose it. Are you trying to have it both ways? "

To the contrary of Carlson's statement, "John Edwards turned to Dick Cheney and said, hey, how is your gay daughter", and the implications drawn therefrom, John Edwards was most cordial in his response to these questions:

"Now, as to this question, let me say first that I think the vice president and his wife love their daughter. I think they love her very much. And you can't have anything but respect for the fact that they're willing to talk about the fact that they have a gay daughter, the fact that they embrace her. It's a wonderful thing. And there are millions of parents like that who love their children, who want their children to be happy."

In essence, Senator John Edwards stuck up for and defended Vice-President Dick Cheney, who had been put in an awkward position by the moderator's question.

And contrary to Carlson's statement and the implications drawn therefrom, Vice-President Dick Cheney was most accepting in his response to Senator John Edwards' statement:

"Well, Gwen, let me simply thank the senator for the kind words he said about my family and our daughter. I appreciate that very much." [Emphasis added.]

Moreover, if you watched Vice-President Dick Cheney's reactions while Senator John Edwards was defending Cheney about the gay daughter issues, it appeared that Vice-President Dick Cheney was quite moved by Senator John Edwards' comments. Additionally, it seemed that Senator John Edwards' very understanding and smooth handling of the gay daughter issue, and its effect on Vice-President Dick Cheney, took the bitter, hostile edge off of Cheney's posture and they then got down to some solid issue addressing.

You can find links to transcripts of the 5 October 2004 Cheney-Edwards debate and the 7 October 2004 Crossfire show, from which the above quotes are taken, in the Resources section at the end of this article.

We understand the format of CNN's Crossfire is designed to make the show interesting, engaging, and animated -- and to present different and opposing points of view. However, that is no excuse for misrepresenting the facts -- or for out and out lying as is the circumstance discussed herein.

This is neither good journalism nor ethical journalism. It is bad journalism.

News organizations should not be trying to mold or to distort the news. We, the public, have a right to know the truth and to hear different points of view -- but based on true facts, not fabrications. CNN is a poor excuse for good journalism. Overall, CNN is a poor excuse for a news organization -- because of its failure to tell the truth!

CNN does have some creditable anchors such as Aaron Brown, Lou Dobbs, and Paula Zahn. However, CNN anchors such Tucker Carlson lack creditability in our opinion. We will not go into a discussion about other CNN anchors and pundits at this time -- in order to keep focus on Carlson's horrible, 7 October performance.

Our overall conclusion is that CNN lacks creditability and that the readers cannot trust CNN. For more about that, please see out editorial, CNN (an AOL company) SUCKS!

For MozillaQuest Magazine

Mike Angelo



Related Article


  • Transcript of Candidates Prepare For Showdown in Missouri, CNN CROSSFIRE, Aired October 7, 2004 - 16:30 ET
  • Transcript of The Cheney-Edwards Vice Presidential Debate, Commission on Presidential Debates, October 5, 2004

Candidate Info



  • E-Mail *


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* We could not find e-mail addresses for the Kerry-Edwards and Nader-Camejo campaigns on their official Web sites. They do have forms that one can fill in to e-mail a message to them, but we could not find just plain old e-mail addresses. There might be e-mail addresses for the campaigns there, but not where we could find them with a reasonable amount of effort.

On the other hand the e-mail address for the Bush-Cheney campaign was very easy to find -- right on the Bush-Cheney Web site contact page. Thus in the e-mail accessibility pros and cons, score +1 for Bush-Cheney and -1 for Kerry-Edwards and Nader-Camejo

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